as far as I know you have to resubmit the new template, however it has been done quite successfully in the past with elitist Africa, guiroma being even more popular that step will probably not be such a headache, the more likely problem is that there will be two guiromas in the top 40.

yea, for guiroma, i can see it happen. But regarding QM, guiroma is only one out of 4 templates on the map (and the one with the least votes aswell), so i doubt the others would make it. And even if they try, it d be pain.
Would be cool if there was a way to adjust such things without having to submit a new template.
Not sure how exactly that d be implemented tho

right, I forgot there were others.

Feels like the remake is missing some color. The original looks better to me. I dont see anything wrong with the original though.

Feels like the remake is missing some color. The original looks better to me. I dont see anything wrong with the original though.

Color comes from the players. The colours in Imp. Roma just make things confusing (cant use blue or green).
Lionhearts version looks far superior to me, but beauty is a subjective i suppose. But player-colors in the map is objectively bad.

Edited 5/3/2024 11:28:50

Are you really unable to differentiate background from territories owned by players? Just change their color by clicking on Name > Change Color. Imo it's just wasted time and effort to create a map only to change background color.

The background in original to me looks better. It isn't a flat color and clearly aren't territories.

I think the purpose of the requests was not to make a bad map a good map. Imp Rom is or has been a nice map before. But some players wanted a Imp Rom version in a Lionheart style.

The adjustment of the colours is a nice to have in this regard, when Lionheart is on it anyway. It could have stayed blue and green, but maybe in a different shading than player colours. But I think that is up to the drawer.

Certainly I see Dan's point too. Why making something what is already there? But on the other hand why not? Car designs are adjusted, company icons are adjusted, ... Look on the evolution of Google or Excel Icons. From how flat they have been when they have been created first to how they look nowadays more optically pleasing. So also a great map like Guiroma may need an optical update. You may use it or you may use it not not.

That then is up to you.

Edited 5/3/2024 12:06:17

Just change their color by clicking on Name > Change Color

thats what i do, but i feel like i shouldnt have to :D

I've gone through all the reviews of the original map.

The only constructive criticism I can find is:

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6488995110&u=Arachnocat14_1
This is even worse than the other roman empire map, and that is really saying something.

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=412625959&u=orinocoflows_1
northern border is not historic exactly and some names of territories are wrong

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=63127686977&u=Renan%20Schimuneck_1
A fine map, altough it's worse than other romans maps on this plataform.

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=35118422654&u=stefano36000_1
this is a nice one, looks could be updated but lots of interesting templates

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6826130368&u=Laura%20The%20Loved%20One_1
It is extremely unbalanced, small groups of territories have the same bonus as bigger groups of territories, it definitely leaves you a dark taste in your mouth.

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3317272995&u=Harshwinner_1
It is very hard to see the territories! :(

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2811250898&u=%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%85%20%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B5_1
Which idiot made this map?
Not balanced piece of ****.
Most territories has a wrong names.
Author is complete noob in mapmaking.

Practically every other review is positive (once you exclude reviews about game settings).

Only 1 review out of 658 claimed that background was an issue

Great effort going through all that comments. Seems like you really really much dont like the colour change then.
Well.... Personally I dont care too much. Not enough to debate on that.

To me, the background of the original map is one of the things that adds value to the map. The remake's background is worse.

Ahhh, he turned it from a children’s map to a real map!!! Feelings!!! Ahhhh!!!!!!

In all honesty I will miss the old map but you’d have to be blind to say the new one isn’t better :)

It is more professional, better drawn, more appealing/aesthetic, and gives even a Roman vibe. Seems perfect? ;)

Agree with Frog and the others that the new map is great and the old one is super ugly. I actually had Guiroma vetoed on mtl for a long time simply because the map is ugly as heck. Now I’m considering vetoing it again because of random move order. Please change that, too :)

idk if its on purpose, but the territory Thracia has different borders on the previous map

https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=72163 - previous
https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=105356 - new



Overall far more realistic than the previous version, spectacular^^

Hi 7ate9!

Thanks for reviewing this missing connection. I'll fix it.

In this week I'll post more than one version of the map for voting.

Nice catch 7

Here is the link I want to share about the map under construction:

https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=105356

Looks awesome Lion!!!

I am not sure about the small isles between Illy and Turkey. They might be more correct. But they are very close to each other, as to not be connected. The old map kept them outgreyed. By that the territorries and connections was clearer.

Im working on the second remake version of the map:

https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=105373

Imo the land background brownish color fit better than the first version.