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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/13/2023 21:47:33


Harmony 
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During last moths I and other players from Harmony have noticed suspicious behavior coming from FTW! (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=589) and GN (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=697) clans. At first we didn’t think much of all the surrenders and boots, but at some point we noticed that these 2 clans would intentionally lose way more often to certain clans and would also choose to normally play against a specific set of clans. We began to feel that there’s some rigging going on, therefore we launched an investigation into FTW/GN. This thread showcases our results.


Evidence of FTW/GN being alts
Although this is not the main point of this thread. It is important to establish that these 2 clans are being Alts. Our players tried to dig up some of their tournaments and even if the process was slow, we found the following tournaments:
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54051
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54050
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54049
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54048
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=53944

After we took a look at these tournaments, the following became clear:
  • Most the accounts have been created at similar times.
  • Most accounts come from same 4 countries: Germany, Austria, Canada and US (New York).
  • Most of accounts only play 1v1 games and have similar winrates.
  • Most accounts became inactive at very similar time.
  • The accounts belonging to FTW and GN also participate in Clan Wars and show suspicious behavior there as well.


This is enough information to establish connection between FTW and GN. All players without a clan and other clans involved in those tournaments are likely alts as well. The most important conclusion to draw from this is that likely same person used multiple accounts to gain unfair advantage in Clan Wars, which is against Warzone ToS.


Evidence of FTW/GN Rigging games
All of Harmony research is available for download here: https://www.udrop.com/file/KxU0/FTW_GN_Effect_On_CW_Seasons_25_to_35.zip

If the link stops working, let me know and I’ll replace it. The archive contains same file in 2 formats: ods and xlsx. The file contains 2 sheets. One shows all checked games played by FTW/GN during Clan War seasons 25-35. Second sheet shows data summary and some basic visualizations. Same visualizations and most important data will be shared in this thread.

Distribution of Benefiting Wins
Main metric which we used to observe situation was Benefit = Boots/Surrenders + Wins against FTW and GN – Loses against FTW and GN. This is how the data looks like for top 10 clans:

Clan: Benefit
Myth Busters: 131
Good News*: 97
Optimum: 54
Harmony: 31
Prime: 29
The Fancy Dot ●: 12
Cats: 11
The Last Alliance: 10
knyte club: 9
Le Furie Azzurre: 8
Others: 92

*-All games between Good News and FTW were combined into one.



Main takeaway is the following:
Myth Busters get significantly more wins against FTW/GN than any other clan. This difference does not correlate to activity differences between these clans.


FTW/GN Aggressiveness
This metric represents the amount of times that these 2 clans chose to fight (no boots or turn 1 surrenders) against another clan:

Clan: Total Play
Le Furie Azzurre: 40
KILL ‘EM ALL: 38
Prime: 23
Cats: 22
Harmony: 16
The Fancy Dot ●: 15
Special Forces : 10
Devil's Soldiers: 9
The Endless: 9
Myth Busters: 8
Other: 72



Main takeaways are the following:
  • Le Furie Azzurre and KILL ‘EM ALL had to fight FTW/GN much more often than other clans.
  • The amount of normal games does not correlate with amount the of total early surrenders and boots.



Maximum Possible Negative Balance
This value is calculated by subtracting regular game amount from early surrender and boot game count. This is done, because it’s assumed that when FTW/GN fought other clans they wanted to win 100% of time, therefore this metric demonstrates the worst case scenario:

Clan: Boots + Surrenders – Play (Positive Values)
Myth Busters: 115
Good News: 97
Optimum: 52
Harmony: 17
The Last Alliance: 6
Battle Wolves: 6
knyte club: 5
Wigglin Jimmy: 4
Red Rum: 4
Very Important Weirdos: 4
Other: 38

Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/13/2023 21:49:50


Harmony 
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For whatever reason it didn't post whole message, so I'm posting the 2nd part. I think the issue might be with some images, so I removed them previously.

Edit: When image links had "-", they would break the message. I used tinyurl and fixed the problem. If you find any issues with this thread, let me know and I'll work to fix them as soon as I'm able to. These technical issues were unexpected to me.

Maximum Possible Negative Balance
This value is calculated by subtracting regular game amount from early surrender and boot game count. This is done, because it’s assumed that when FTW/GN fought other clans they wanted to win 100% of time, therefore this metric demonstrates the worst case scenario:

Clan: Boots + Surrenders – Play (Positive Values)
Myth Busters: 115
Good News: 97
Optimum: 52
Harmony: 17
The Last Alliance: 6
Battle Wolves: 6
knyte club: 5
Wigglin Jimmy: 4
Red Rum: 4
Very Important Weirdos: 4
Other: 38



Clan: Boots + Surrenders – Play (Negative Values)
Le Furie Azzurre: -18
KILL ‘EM ALL: -13
Special Forces : -9
The Endless: -7
The Night's Watch: -3
The Saber-Rattlers: -3
Devil's Soldiers: -3
Cats: -3
Prime: -3
Westerosi: -2
Other: -23



Main takeaways are the following:
  • Even if Myth Busters lost all the normal games, the boot/surrender games would have given them much higher benefit than compared to other clans.
  • Le Furie Azzurre, KILL ‘EM ALL, Special Forces and The Endless clans have been targeted much harder than the other clans which suggests that FTW/GN does not want them to succeed as much.




Some minor points:
  • Each 2v2 games wesd counted as 2 wins.
  • Every single FTW/GN 2v2 game ended in boots or picking phase surrenders.
  • FTW and GN only played one game against each other that didn’t end in one of those clans surrendering on turn 1 or getting booted: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=33719381
  • Seasons that happened before 25th season, got ignored. We assume that similar rigging happened in earlier seasons as well.
  • The collected data has been checked a few times to make sure that there are no errors. If any errors are found, I will make necessary corrections or acknowledgments.


Conclusions
  • FTW/GN uses alts.
  • FTW/GN Boots/Surrenders do not happen at random.
  • FTW/GN Boots/Surrenders tend to heavily favor Myth Busters.
  • FTW/GN tend to fight the hardest against Le Furie Azzurre, KILL ‘EM ALL, Special Forces and The Endless.


At this point in time I cannot tell which clan is behind FTW/GN operation, but I suspect that FTW/GN did not operate on their own. FTW/GN clearly put a lot of effort into this operation and it’s not running like a charity. If most clans get 10 wins, but one clan gets 100 wins, comparatively speaking most clans have lost 90 games in comparison to the clan which got 100 wins. This scheme has already been running for 11+ seasons and if we keep tolerating it, things might get worse.

We believe that there might be dozens of other accounts and potentially some other clans connected to this situation. We at Harmony have exhausted our means of investigation, therefore we’re asking for a wider Warzone community to help us out. If you are aware of any other clan/accounts involved in Clan Wars rigging schemes, share your information in this thread and also report it directly to Warzone mods and Fizzer.

Edited 8/13/2023 21:54:26
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/13/2023 22:16:27


Orcinus orca
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My theory is as follows:

1) FTW and GN are free win hunting. I suspect they are the same players with alts but have no real evidence behind this beyond the same modus operandum and the fact that one of them always beats the other.

2) They mainly play 2v2 because it has the best chances at a free win. Thus, MB has the most games against them because MB plays 2v2 more than other clans do.

3) They surrender or boot against anyone they think they're hopelessly outmatched against. That's why they actually play against very weak clans like LFA.

I don't think a more prominent clan is setting them up as patsies. A clan like MB would only be matched with them if no other clans were available to play in which case they would get a free win anyways. So the value would be extremely marginal.

To sum up, yes I think these two clans are alts of each other, but the simplest explanation is that they are low skill players trying a scheme to make up for their low skill. They're not targetting LFA, Kill Em all etc. because they don't want those clans to succeed, but because those are clans they think they can actually beat.
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/13/2023 22:35:50


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I agree with what Orcus wrote. and would just add to his point 3) that GN/FTW will mostly be matched by either MB or OP on templates they are the only ones to play or lower rated active clans, and so, given the limited resources decide to fight the later rather than the former.

I find it hard to believe another clan would go to the trouble of creating such an operation. and as Orcus mentioned a statistic missing from this is how much of those bootwins they gave would be free wins if those ALTs weren't there.

What I really cannot fathom is why anyone would go to the trouble of creating an army of alt, and the use for it, when plenty of clans in the top 9 don't have full rosters, surely joining one of those iss a lower effort/higher reward course of action than having 20+ alts to manage.

(and about that game mentioned in the thread, I do not believe one of the players in the game is an alt)
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/13/2023 22:42:46


Harmony 
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My thoughts:
  • If someone spends months/years doing something, it's usually for a big reason. So far FTW! and Good News would place in mediocre places at the end of each season, so I think there must be something bigger going on. I've saw them having extra clanless accounts and a whole additional clan participating in their tournaments, so perhaps they're planning something bigger. It's better to end this sooner when to wait and find out what kind of rigging they've planned for the future.
  • As it stands right now, thanks to existence of these 2 Alt clans, Myth Busters gets way more wins than other clans (something like 1 full territory per season), it makes it harder to catch up with them.
  • Most of 2v2's I saw did not really involve Myth Busters. If I remember correctly Optimum god a lot of wins there and a lot of these 2v2's simply were between FTW and Good News.
  • Having a lot of boot/surrender on turn 1 wins is boring. I don't want this to last. When I think of Clan Wars, I think of fighting. There's nothing exciting about getting a win without putting any effort into this.
  • I have reported Good News and FTW players for some days at bare minimum. I'm surprised that they're still allowed to operate in Clan Wars. I figured that in case nothing is done by the mods, Clan Wars community could signal boost this issue to Fizzer and maybe then the problem would get solved.
  • I think that we (Harmony) and Prime also got some weak players, not sure about TLA, but they might also have some weaker players. I find it weird that they singled out those particular clans.


I don't have access to mods tools. There's only so much I can do. I think this FTW! and Good News circus has gone for long enough. It's time to investigate this deeper and end their pointless games/schemes for once and for all. They're clearly boosting each other in direct matchups so I don't understand how they haven't been suspended already. I don't understand how these clans were allowed to operate for 10+ seasons!
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 02:53:51

Kcebnroh 
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Fizzer can tell if they are alts or not with his finger printing system
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 04:57:38


Norman 
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I have skipped over a couple dozen games from both FTW and Good News. My findings are that they both boot a lot and when they do not boot, they play sub AI level. I tend to believe that the gameplay I saw was no joke but it was quite rare that I have seen such play on this site. They did not even really know how to take their starting bonuses.

Since their gameplay is so bad, I do not really see any benefit for Myth Busters if they boot against them or play it out in terms of the final outcome. What I have also seen is that their template selection is quite broad and that they do not really favor the Small Earth templates. Since Myth Busters also does not favor Small Earth, this should explain them having a comparatively large play rate against them.

So to sum things up, they are indeed feeding Myth Busters but there is no cheating going on since they are just fish getting farmed. The good thing is that they are not clogging the bomb template, so Optimum can not farm them :)

Edited 8/14/2023 13:24:04
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 05:52:14


Norman 
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Apparently the community has evolved. In the past the diplo folk were the most low skilled group but now a new group has emerged called "Idlers". Idlers do not care at all about classic WarLight with bonuses and such stuff and they only mingle with the normal WarLight players from time to time to get some more idle benefits. There might be indeed some multiaccounting going on BTW but only for the purpose of the Idlers getting better idle rewards.

Edited 8/14/2023 05:58:54
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 07:34:05

Naviiso 
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I tihnk only important thing to consider is this ( know the formatting is crap):

Clan Boot Win Loss Benefit
1 Myth 123 0 8 131
2 GN 97 0 0 97
3 Opti 53 0 1 54
4 Harmony 33 9 7 31
5 TLA 9 1 2 10
6 Wolves 6 0 0 6
7 Knyte 8 1 2 9


If MB was trying to get a benefit out of this, surely GN/FTW would at least try to fight Opti? I think the other messages in this thread give a much more likely reason for all this.
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 12:26:14


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@Eternity

"Main takeaway is the following: Myth Busters get significantly more wins against FTW/GN than any other clan. This difference does not correlate to activity differences between these clans."

Your conspiracy theory is wrong. It is simply a result of Harmony not signing up often enough for CW 2v2 - whereas MB often competes in 2v2 slots.

At FTW we care about CW only in terms of CW rewards. We are mostly mediocre skills players and not looking to waste time losing CW battles vs. walrus clans and walrus players. Alle we want is to to get at least 1 real win per season to be eligible for individual idle rewards and as many free wins as possible as clan - for clan rank idle rewards.

Contrary to your suspicion/allegation we do *NOT* care about other clan's CW success and even less so about which other clan/s benefit most from boot wins against us. And yes, occasionally we decide to fight instead of getting booted.

Good News follows pretty much the same strategy. Yes, we occasionally play private tournaments with them as well as with other clans, mainly for coin whell spins. Like many other clans & players do.

So, if Harmony wants more "cheap CW wins" then just sign up for as many 2v2 CW games as you possibly can and you will have decent chances to get matched against us ... or against a walrus clan like MB. :-)

Further word of caution: as Orcus was guessing above, we also unpredictably decide to fight some CW games - depending on template, our skill, our assessment of opponent's skill and time on hand. So proceed at your own risk.

Edited 8/14/2023 12:27:07
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 12:35:24


Tac(ky)tical 
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nono rigged raffles, now clan war. its obvious, hope something is done soon
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 12:48:59


Harmony 
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@NONO

I got some questions:
#1 How related are Good News and FTW! clans? Do they both have the same leader?
#2 Do your clans have any alts within them? Do your players share their passwords?
#3 Why did between ~100 last games of FTW! Vs. Good News, 99% of them ended in boots/surrenders?
#4 Is either FTW! or Good News trying to boost each other's rating by playing against each other?
#5 Why have I not seen a single FTW! and Good News 2v2 game go past the picking phase?
#6 If you choose random targets to fight, you should target same clans about the same amount of times. There are dozens of weak clans, a decent amount of them play rather frequently, but you only played most of your games against 4 of them, most of games being played rather against Le Furie Azzure or KILL 'EM ALL?
#7 Do you believe that your way of approach is the intended way of play? Did Fizzer intend clans to behave this way when he first made Warzone?
#8 Do you have any connections to Really Right https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=747 clan? Are there any other clans that you're related to?
#9 How did you meet players without clan in this tournament https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54049 Are those players real people or are they alts?
#10 Is getting booted or surrendering on 1st turn an official strategy of your clan? Do you intentionally try to play against each other (FTW Vs Good News) to further increase your amount of wins?

Those are all the questions I have at the moment. I will greatly appreciate any answers I can get.
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 13:41:15

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I don't think there should be any doubt that FTW and GN are rigging CW. This is NOT how anyone would want CW to be. Some may not care so much about CW but i don't think anyone in wz wants this sort of rubbish. Cats has also been targeted quite hard knowing just how few members actually play CW in Cats... but indeed the four clans mentioned have been targeted harder. I agree that MB is just farming FTW/GN due to how they select templates (MB is not doing this intentionally, likely, just how the selection of templates goes).
Generally Idlers would just have one account to play with since it would take so much more effort trying to run multiple accounts' Idle, especially deep into phase 3 and 4... and they would probably join some random casual clan or things like that so they can get the territory idle bonuses, doubt anyone would do this just for the sake of Idle. Personally I have never used any of my CW rewards and only plan to do so after SAsc and they don't help much except when starting out or doing something like hardened europe huge.

Edited 8/14/2023 14:00:14
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 15:00:56


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Great research which deserves an extensive attention! A lot of effort was put into it and we all should appreciate that.




On the on hand I guess, a lot of people had the suspicion that FTW/GN use alts for. On the other, as some commenters mentioned, I doubt that there is a bigger conspiracy plot, than 2 clans use alts for FW hunting. So rigging in favor of other clans is unintentional.




The discovered tournaments are very interesting. They show is that the alt-networks of FTW and GN is way larger than what we observe in CW.

General FW meta. My estimate, that there is room for only ~20-30 Free Win hunting accounts. If there are more, then the efficiency of FW hunting diminishes.

There are still a few questions:

- With such enthusiasm to play CW daily with multiple accounts, NONO and players (whe are real) would probably be MVPs in any top-9 clan with just playing thei mains. This would reward higher rewards for main accounts. Why did NONO decide to mess with all of these alts for lots of low-tier idle buffs, is beyond my understanding. What is the motivation here.

- I don't understand what else besides CW FTW/GN use these alts for, but there might be a possibility for that.




While it is a violation of TOS. I think, that unless clans using alts dont get to top-9 (coin zone), it is not worthy to penalize them.

They help to get the seasons shorter, and they help other clans to get more wins, thus getting more territories and idle rewards. And if anyone is for promotion of competitive games, then I assume such FW hunt even help with those (Clans, that previously would get only a FW, now have a 1/3 chance for a competitive game)

Unfortunately, this is a special case, that FTW has recently in Season 33 got to top-9 (squeezing FDC from coin zone), and in my opinion, should be penalized for that.
Or at least the rewards should be redistributed in favor of Fancy Dot Clan.

While I think, that it is not a big issue, when alts are used below the coin zone, but when you get you way to the top-9 with alts, that's a big hit to Clan Wars competition spirit and game integrity.




What I feel like a big close issue, is lack of feedback on player reporting.

I have reported people for using alts in CW (not FTW/GN) and I know that people have reported alts in CW. And there was no any official response, where the reports were satisfied or declined. I believe, that proper responses on the reports would not only help the transparency of the game, but would help to clear out any suspicions against legit players.

Hope something is done soon.
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 17:42:30


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Players from FTW!, Good News and Really Right sorted by id
Id      | Name               | Plays from                | Sign up date | Level | Total games | Clan         | Link                                         
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1155581 | LAFfe Lukas        | Netherlands               | 13 Feb 2020  | 57    | 1184        | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=84115558149
1389262 | NONO               | Austria                   | 19 Apr 2021  | 58    | 2864        | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=68138926223
1431154 | 8ung baby          | Germany                   | 05 Dec 2021  | 57    | 1473        | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=37143115414
1432505 | Shape Shifter      | Germany                   | 14 Dec 2021  | 57    | 1638        | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=62143250570
1432545 | Sapperlot          | Germany                   | 14 Dec 2021  | 57    | 1390        | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=76143254508
1433960 | Fioline            | Germany                   | 22 Dec 2021  | 57    | 1427        | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=54143396054
1445315 | dorabella          | Canada                    | 15 Feb 2022  | 57    | 1453        | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=13144531533
1466737 | dolcevita          | Canada                    | 15 Jun 2022  | 56    | 1091        | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=46146673775
1490139 | sarastro           | Canada                    | 28 Nov 2022  | 55    | 715         | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=25149013979
1493928 | lastrada           | Canada                    | 23 Dec 2022  | 53    | 561         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=93149392844
1494450 | good news          | Germany                   | 26 Dec 2022  | 54    | 595         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=29149445044
1501617 | owen meany         | Canada                    | 10 Feb 2023  | 54    | 668         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=98150161734
1505133 | Extrig             | Canada                    | 06 Mar 2023  | 52    | 545         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=31150513328
1507955 | Bessie Smith       | Canada                    | 25 Mar 2023  | 53    | 465         | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=61150795557
1512366 | Mississippi goddam | Austria                   | 24 Apr 2023  | 51    | 490         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=57151236621
1512557 | absolutely me      | United States: California | 25 Apr 2023  | 54    | 587         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=56151255733
1512572 | plus ultra         | Austria                   | 25 Apr 2023  | 57    | 491         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=98151257239
1512575 | simply perfect     | United States: California | 25 Apr 2023  | 52    | 506         | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=31151257599
1515278 | amarcord           | United States: California | 15 May 2023  | 50    | 434         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=86151527800
1515279 | elanaveva          | United States: New York   | 15 May 2023  | 50    | 402         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=10151527966
1515281 | vitelloni          | United States: California | 15 May 2023  | 51    | 387         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=99151528141
1515282 | accatone           | United States: New York   | 15 May 2023  | 51    | 436         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=53151528208
1515284 | ottoemezzo         | United States: California | 15 May 2023  | 50    | 396         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=26151528400
1516304 | belledenuit        | Austria                   | 23 May 2023  | 49    | 351         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=29151630419
1516306 | notabene           | Germany                   | 23 May 2023  | 48    | 314         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=71151630631
1516307 | EOF                | United States: California | 23 May 2023  | 53    | 333         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=48151630741
1516400 | Angel Heart        | Canada                    | 24 May 2023  | 50    | 322         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=80151640022
1518149 | sanssoleil         | Germany                   | 07 Jun 2023  | 45    | 188         | Good News    | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=75151814906
1518553 | reel injun         | Austria                   | 11 Jun 2023  | 42    | 187         | FTW!         | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=23151855307
1521852 | abcdefu            | United States: California | 14 Jul 2023  | 40    | 169         | Really Right | https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=55152185265


Edited to include Really Right

Edited 8/14/2023 21:28:21
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 17:50:18


DanWL 
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I think its very clear EOF and notabene are the same person, those accounts where created back to back, so must be using a VPN.
Shape Shifter and Sapperlot could be same person.
All other accounts it's unclear.

Edited 8/14/2023 17:50:58
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 19:13:35


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The following clan (Really Right) https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=747 claims on its bio, that they're planning to join Clan Wars soon and they've been playing in same tournaments as FTW and GN.

To add to what DanWL showcased before:

56151255733 absolutely me 4/25/2023 California
98151257239 plus ultra 4/25/2023 Austria
53151528208 accatone 5/15/2023 New York
99151528141 vitelloni 5/15/2023 California
57151236621 Mississippi goddam 4/24/2023 Austria
26151528400 ottoemezzo 5/15/2023 California
86151527800 amarcord 5/15/2023 California
10151527966 elanaveva 5/15/2023 New York
29151630419 belledenuit 5/23/2023 Austria
55152185265 abcdefu 7/14/2023 California


Quite a coincidence how 5 of these accounts were created on a same date.

Now for accounts without a clan found in this tournament https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54050

42148506815 almrausch 10/24/2022 Austria
21148369639 alphorn 10/14/2022 Germany
79148507171 bartgeier 10/24/2022 Germany
66148369887 bergsee 10/14/2022 Germany
87151425959 christberg 5/9/2023 Germany
57148506988 couloir 10/24/2022 Germany
84150510710 diedamskopf 3/6/2023 Germany
17148370053 dohle 10/14/2022 Austria
41148629679 drusenfluh 11/2/2022 Austria
86148507092 eispickel 10/24/2022 Austria
80148370263 enzianschnaps 10/14/2022 Austria
61148458687 fernsicht 10/21/2022 Austria
21148524496 figl 10/25/2022 Austria
73150064591 freschen 2/4/2023 Austria
75148493762 gamsbart 10/23/2022 Austria
69148458798 geierwally 10/21/2022 Austria
88148557634 hoehenluft 10/28/2022 Austria
52148557792 huettengaudi 10/28/2022 Austria
74149160922 ifen 12/7/2022 Austria
99148627961 jause 11/2/2022 Austria


In summary the following stands (together with DanWL's data):
Country Statistics:
Austria 19
Germany 12
Canada 8
California 7
New York 2
Netherlands 1

I am 100% positive that I saw one of the clans being 100% New York before, therefore they're switching their IPs from time to time. Hopefully mods can confirm their IP changes after a deeper look at this.

Date of Creation Statistics
13/2/2020 - 1
19/4/2021 - 1
5/12/2021 - 1
14/12/2021 - 2
22/12/2021 - 1
15/2/2022 - 1
15/6/2022 - 1
10/14/2022 - 4
10/21/2022 - 2

10/23/2022 - 1
10/24/2022 - 4
10/25/2022 - 1
10/28/2022 - 2
2/11/2022 - 2

28/11/2022 - 1
2/12/2022 - 1
23/12/2022 - 1
26/12/2022 - 1
10/2/2023 - 1
6/3/2023 - 1
25/3/2023 - 1
2/4/2023 - 1
24/4/2023 - 1
25/4/2023 - 3
9/5/2023 - 1
15/5/2023 - 5
23/5/2023 - 3

24/5/2023 - 1
3/6/2023 - 1
7/14/2023 - 1
7/6/2023 - 1
11/6/2023 - 1

10/14/2022, 10/24/2022, 25/4/2023, 15/5/2023, 23/5/2023 each of these dates had at least 3+ accounts made on it. There's a total of 50 accounts, so there's a lot of coincidences involved for such a small group of players.


I believe that FTW/GN are absolutely rigging their games against their closest competition (according to https://wz-clanwars.netlify.app):

#10 KILL 'EM ALL
#12 Good News
#13 Le Furie Azzurre
#15 FTW!

Their 2 most hit clans just so happen to be very close in ranking to them.

Right now FTW and GN are projected to get a total of ~11 territories. If Really Right https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=747 joins them in later seasons it would get to like ~16 territories. They've clearly got more alts connected to this, so if we don't act, the amount of alt clans will increase. Even right now thanks to existence of of FTW/GN, top 5 clans will earn at least 1-2 less territories. If this keeps going, it will be harder and harder to get territory count rewards.

The maximum free win capacity might have a limit, but A) Different factions might decide it's worth to go for Free Wins, so they'd split them. B) If these clans simply get booted/surrender, it doesn't matter if they get free wins (FTW Vs GN already functions like a free win). More fake clans getting involved means more wins and higher counts of earned territories at the end of each season.
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 19:51:22


master of desaster 
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But why is eternity stalling on an actually good community event?
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 19:57:44


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not going to comment the main subject of the thread, just want to say that to try to find a correlation between this clans and MB is completely ridiculous.

they don't think there is a chance to beat an MB player or in a 2v2 so they just surrender, they do the same with OP but they get matched less times.

Im sure that most of the wins you show in stats would have been a FW anyway, cos many of them ocurr in 2v2 and its typical that only MB and GN/FTW show up.

Edited 8/14/2023 19:58:02
Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 8/14/2023 19:58:32


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Just to add some info on the Really Right (I know that they are not the main issue here, as they dont play CW, yet still...):

1. It is known that you can remove first and last 2 digits of the profile id and get the actual player id, which is basically an autoincrement.
When stripped, sorted and grouped, the Really Right guys player ids are the following:

1512366

1512557

1512572
1515278
1515279
1515281
1515282
1515284

1516304
1521852
As you may see 6 profiles were created in rapid succession.

2. From some external data I can confirm that the location of all (or almost all) players from Really Right players basically oscillates between California, New York and Canada. Some of the players have almost 100% correlation of their locations between each other.

Edited 8/14/2023 20:01:13
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